Every August, dynasty managers pay real assets for training-camp reports. A beat writer notes who ran with the first team, a preseason drive gets clipped and upvoted, and by Labor Day the price has moved. The question nobody answers is the only one that matters: does the hype ever pan out?
August 2023 is old enough to answer. We collected the 303 most-upvoted posts submitted to r/DynastyFF that month, identified the players the community was actually talking about — measured by thread counts and upvotes, not our memory of the summer — and matched each one against his weekly KeepTradeCut superflex value from July 2023 through this week. Then we went deeper: the archived comment sections of the biggest threads, the market's own price moves across the first two weeks of that August, and what every player went on to produce on the field. Every grade below links to the original posts and comments, with their scores, so you can check the receipts yourself.
The timing is not an accident. It is mid-August again, camp-standout threads are back on the front page, and the 2026 versions of these exact posts are being written right now. Here is what happened to the last generation of them.
Each chart is the player's KTC superflex value, weekly, from July 2023 through August 2026. The shaded band is the hype window — August 2023, when the posts were written. Each amber dot marks the week one of the cited posts hit the front page. Green lines ended above the hype-window price; red lines ended below it.
Ten players, graded from A+ to F
Grades measure how the community's take aged, not how good the player is. A camp report that marked the all-time top earns an F. And one entry runs in reverse: the Trey Lance funeral thread was capitulation rather than hype, so it gets graded on whether selling was right. Each card shows the value chart, what the player produced on the field afterward, and the most upvoted comments from inside the threads — which turn out to be a signal of their own.
Jaxon Smith-Njigba
The hype was not hype enough.
The sub spent the back half of August arguing about the rookie. “JSN is going to be a problem in the NFL” (91 upvotes) landed on August 20, one day after “JSN is a fade at his current price” (40 upvotes), while a third thread asked why he ranked so far ahead of Quentin Johnston, Jordan Addison, and Zay Flowers. Both sides showed up; the optimists were louder.
Both takes looked right at different times. His price sagged through a quiet rookie year and bottomed 27% below the hype-window price in September 2024 — the fade post's best moment. Then the breakout came, and by late 2025 he had led the NFL in receiving yards and pinned his value to the top of the WR board. The August 2023 believers were rewarded, just two years later than they expected.
De'Von Achane
The 197-pound debate ended in a blowout.
Miami's beat corps reported Achane had bulked up to 197 pounds, and the thread asking whether that changed anyone's mind pulled 138 upvotes. A preseason all-touches breakdown followed at 96. Then August did August things: “RB De'Von Achane carted to the locker room” hit 168 upvotes on the 19th and the price actually dipped into September.
The cart was a shoulder scare, and five weeks after the hype window you could buy him 15% cheaper. Anyone who did caught one of the great value explosions in recent dynasty history — a 57% single-month rip in October 2023 behind absurd yards-per-carry efficiency, and he has held a top-tier RB price ever since. Up 85% from the hype window three years later, at a position where prices usually rot.
Sam LaPorta
Camp-report hype that told the truth.
“LaPorta has been taking first-team reps since Day 1 and doesn't look out of place at all” earned 183 upvotes on August 4. Rookie tight ends are supposed to be automatic fades, so the sub treating a Day 2 rookie TE as an every-down starter was itself a signal.
The camp reports were simply accurate. LaPorta finished as the overall TE1 in PPR as a rookie, his price nearly doubled by the following summer, and even after the position-wide cooldown he sits 37% above the hype-window price. The footnote: his value dipped 7% the week after the post — even the truest hype gave you a cheaper entry.
Trey Lance
The anti-hype that aged perfectly.
This one is the control group, not hype. The sub was holding a funeral: “Trey Lance owners support group” pulled 224 upvotes on August 13 — one of the ten biggest posts of the month — flanked by “Is it time to give up on Trey Lance?” and, five days later, “I just sold Lance and I feel relieved.” Inside the thread, the room split cleanly in two. The capitulators were selling. The truthers were doubling down, and the top comment was a truther pledge: “I bought high going into 2022 and am still holding to this day. What is dead may never die.” Another holder confessed to turning down Daniel Jones plus two firsts for him.
Twelve days after the support group convened, San Francisco traded Lance to Dallas for a fourth-round pick and his dynasty price collapsed 42% in two weeks. He then attempted zero regular-season passes in 2023 and has produced 26 fantasy points in the three seasons since. Every comment in that thread was a trade decision in disguise, and the relieved seller beat the “buy window closes after the first snap” crowd by roughly 2,000 KTC points. Capitulation threads get mocked, and this one called the top of the remaining value almost to the week.
Rashid Shaheed
The meme was directionally correct.
The single most upvoted post on r/DynastyFF in August 2023 was “🚨🚨 Rashid Shaheed has a Sleeper picture 🚨🚨” — 356 upvotes for the observation that the app had granted a former undrafted deep threat an official headshot. It was a meme. It was also, technically, a buy thesis.
Six weeks later Shaheed's price had jumped 38% on early-season deep balls, and it has oscillated around that higher plateau ever since — up 41% from the hype window overall. The meme beat most of the serious analysis in this report card. What it never became was a league-winner: three straight seasons in the WR39-to-WR90 range, the profile of a tradeable flier rather than a cornerstone.
Anthony Richardson
Right for thirteen months, then very wrong.
“It's official: The Colts have named rookie QB Anthony Richardson their Week 1 starter” (220 upvotes, August 15) capped a month of AR content — every preseason pass attempt charted, an over/under thread on his rushing volume. In superflex the sub priced him like a top-five dynasty QB before he had thrown a regular-season pass.
Here's the uncomfortable part: the hype held. His price climbed for thirteen straight months and peaked 26% above the hype window in September 2024 — while he was finishing QB38, then QB25, and never producing a top-24 fantasy season. The market priced the ceiling for over a year with no production underneath it. Then came the benching, the floor gave out, and the price fell 75% from its peak. Rushing-QB hype has the longest shelf life of any hype in dynasty, which makes it the easiest to ride and the hardest to exit. Everyone had a year to sell at a profit. Most didn't.
Sam Howell
“Mark my words” aged fourteen weeks.
“Mark My Words: Sam Howell Will be a Fantasy Star” went up on August 6 (59 upvotes), and twelve days later the Commanders made it look prophetic by naming him the starting quarterback (90 upvotes). A fifth-round pick with the job in a superflex format — the sub was intrigued.
For fourteen weeks the take worked: Howell finished 2023 as the QB13 in PPR, led the league in pass attempts, and his price ran up 60% by Thanksgiving. Then the sacks and the benching arrived. He scored negative fantasy points across all of 2024, and the price gave back everything and kept falling — down 69% from the hype window today. The lesson isn't that the post was wrong; it's that hype-QB gains are rented, not owned. One commenter predicted “benched by week 6” and was off by only half a season. There was a real, month-long window to sell at +60%, and it never came back.
Kendre Miller
August 2023 was as expensive as he would ever get.
“Kendre Miller standing out at training camp” hit 182 upvotes on August 2, with Alvin Kamara's suspension opening a September lane for the rookie. A preseason touches thread followed, then the knee sprain threads — the full August lifecycle in one player, inside three weeks.
His superflex value on August 7, 2023 — the Monday after the camp-standout post — turned out to be the highest it would ever be again. Three seasons later his career line reads 105.7 total PPR points and no finish better than RB71. The top comment under the hype post was “Every rookie is on this sub lol,” which outscored the post itself and turned out to be the most accurate analysis of the month. The crowd knew. The crowd upvoted the camp report anyway.
Skyy Moore
Camp reps are free. Targets are not.
“Skyy Moore has been with 1s every rep at training camp when KC has had 2 WRs” (162 upvotes, August 7), followed three days later by “Skyy Moore seeing every rep with first-team in 2-WR sets” (79). A second-year receiver, in the Chiefs offense, running with the starters — it was the cleanest opportunity story of the month, and his price climbed 18% across camp to prove it.
August 21, 2023 was Skyy Moore's all-time value peak. The first-team camp reps never converted into regular-season targets: 68.5 total PPR points across the next three seasons, including a 2024 in which he scored zero. This is the purest specimen in the dataset — hype built entirely on practice-field usage, worth nothing the moment real games started. Credit where due: a mid-thread commenter invoked the 525-yard rookie rule as the reason for doubt, and the rule won.
Justyn Ross
The camp-hype spike you can see from space.
Andy Reid said Ross had “done a nice job” (49 upvotes), the sub declared “the train rolls on” when he returned from a leg scare (90), and one skeptic asked the question of the month: “Is Justyn Ross relevant for the Chiefs or is this just camp hype?” (36 upvotes — the fewest of the three).
The chart answers the skeptic. Ross's value spiked 47% in the two weeks around those posts — from 1,553 in late July to 2,282 on August 7 — the single most concentrated camp-hype pump in the dataset. His entire NFL career since amounts to 11.3 PPR points, and by early 2026 he dropped off KTC's rated board entirely. The saddest part is that the top comment in the skeptic thread named the exact risk: “his only real obstacle is health.” It was, and the crowd priced the upside anyway.
What the market was buying while the sub was posting
Upvotes are one hype signal. Price is another. These are the biggest KTC superflex risers from August 1 to August 14, 2023, among players valued 1,200 or higher — the names the crowd was voting up with trades instead of upvotes — with each player's footprint in the top-303 post sample next to it.
| Player | Aug 1–14 rise | Today | Front-page presence | Three years later |
|---|---|---|---|---|
Tank Dell WR | +25.8% | 2,643 | One TD clip, ▲141 | WR39 as a rookie in 10 games; value peaked at 5,575 that November, then the injuries came. |
Kareem Hunt RB | +23.9% | off board | A week of free-agency visit threads | News-driven, not hype. Aged off the rated board. |
Ty Chandler RB | +22.9% | 520 | “Ty Chandler looks great,” ▲81 | RB48, then RB89, then RB106. Down 67%. |
Deuce Vaughn RB | +14.4% | off board | Preseason big-game thread, ▲81 | Value peaked August 23, 2023. Off the board. |
Jalin Hyatt WR | +14.3% | 1,321 | 33-yard TD hype post, ▲87 | WR100, WR158, WR180. Down 52%. |
Jake Ferguson TE | +12.7% | 3,074 | “Clear No. 1 TE” ▲183, “screaming buy” ▲109 | TE9, TE25, TE5. Up 72%. The sub's best explicit call. |
Joshua Palmer WR | +12% | 1,469 | Zero front-page posts | The market moved without Reddit. It was wrong anyway. |
Cedric Tillman WR | +11.2% | 1,706 | Zero front-page posts | One later spike to 3,256, now below the August price. |
De'Von Achane RB | +8.1% | 6,856 | Weigh-in debate ▲138, cart scare ▲168 | RB5 and RB6 the last two seasons. Up 85%. |
Puka Nacua WR | +7.3% | 8,951 | Zero posts in the entire top-303 sample | WR4 as a rookie, WR1 in 2025. Up 423%. The month's best buy never trended. |
Kayshon Boutte WR | +6.9% | 2,601 | “Quietly having a solid camp,” ▲40 | Slow build to a real WR51 role. Up 99%. |
Michael Wilson WR | +5.6% | 3,765 | Appeared once — as the other guy in “Rashid Shaheed vs Michael Wilson,” ▲48 | WR10 in 2025. Up 102%, more than double Shaheed's return. |
Puka Nacua never made the front page
The single best dynasty buy of August 2023 appears zero times in the 303 most-upvoted posts of the month. While the sub produced three threads about A.T. Perry, Nacua's KTC price rose 7% in two weeks on quiet camp reports, and he opened the season with back-to-back 100-yard games on his way to a WR4 rookie finish. From 1,711 in the hype window, he sits at 8,951 today, up 423%. Michael Wilson tells the same story in miniature: his one front-page appearance was as the other guy in a Rashid Shaheed comparison thread, and he has since returned double what Shaheed has. The loudest hype and the best hype were different lists.
Quick hits from the same month
Values compare the August 14, 2023 KTC superflex price to August 10, 2026. The sub's single best explicit call of the month — “Jake Ferguson is a screaming buy” — is in here, and so is its biggest silent winner.
| Player | The post | Aug '23 | Today | Verdict |
|---|---|---|---|---|
Jahmyr Gibbs RB | Jahmyr Gibbs vs New York Giants, Preseason Week 1 (all touches) ▲133 | 6,206 | 9,999 | The biggest hit in the sample. The preseason tape threads were right; he now sits at the KTC value ceiling. |
Jake Ferguson TE | Jake Ferguson is a screaming buy for 2023 ▲109 | 1,788 | 3,074 | The sub's best explicit buy call: +72%, and it peaked even higher in late 2025. |
Jordan Addison WR | Jordan Addison is cooking during the redzone period today ▲92 | 5,029 | 3,880 | Real player, wrong price. Four hype threads in one month, and the value still sits 23% below the window. |
Zach Charbonnet RB | Zach Charbonnet has laid out safety Lewis Cine twice last night ▲194 | 3,864 | 3,394 | All-time value peak: August 25, 2023 — two weeks after the pancake-block post. |
Dalton Kincaid TE | Dalton Kincaid looking prettyyyy prettyyyy prettyyyy…good today ▲60 | 4,226 | 3,142 | Three summers of “this is the year” later, the price is down 26%. |
Jonathan Mingo WR | Jonathan Mingo is listed as a starting receiver ▲149 | 3,109 | 1,087 | Named a starter in August, down 65% since. Depth-chart hype without a talent signal. |
Zamir White RB | With Josh Jacobs still absent, Raiders list Zamir White as RB1 ▲179 | 2,059 | off board | A holdout-shaped mirage. Briefly spiked in 2024, now off the rated board entirely. |
Eight preseason heroes, zero survivors
August 2023's deep-cut hype posts — nearly 900 combined upvotes across these eight players — produced not one startable dynasty asset by 2026. Preseason touchdowns against third-string defenses remain the most reliably worthless signal in dynasty.
Six lessons from three years of receipts
An equal bet on all ten hyped players returned -16%. Remove the two big winners and it returned -46%. You are not buying “the hype class” — you are hunting the one or two names that carry it, and six of ten lost roughly half their value or more.
Skyy Moore, Justyn Ross, Zach Charbonnet, and Deuce Vaughn all hit their multi-year value peak inside the hype window itself, and Kendre Miller never again cost more than he did that camp. When a camp report moves a price, the move is often the entire trade.
Nine of the ten featured players could be bought cheaper after the hype cooled — including all of the eventual hits. LaPorta dipped 7% within a week, Achane 15% within five, Smith-Njigba 27% within a year. Missing the hype window costs nothing; paying the hype premium does.
The busts were hyped for circumstances: first-team reps (Moore, Ross), a named starting job (Howell, Mingo), a teammate's absence (White, Miller). The hits were hyped for how the player looked (LaPorta, Achane, Smith-Njigba). Depth charts change in a week; talent doesn't.
The month's top post (356 upvotes) was a meme about an app headshot. The most prophetic takes — “JSN is going to be a problem” and the Justyn Ross skeptic — pulled 91 and 36. Crowd volume tells you where attention is, which is exactly where the price is already wrong. Meanwhile the best buy of the month, Puka Nacua, never made the front page at all.
Under the Kendre Miller camp report, “Every rookie is on this sub lol” outscored the post itself. Under the Achane weigh-in, the top comment mocked the premise. Under the JSN fade, the top comment defended him. Time and again the thread's top comment priced the hype better than the thread's title. Read the room, not the headline.
The 2026 versions of these posts are live right now
Open the front page of any dynasty community this week and you will find the same archetypes on schedule: the undrafted camp darling catching everything, the Day 2 rookie promoted to the first team, the second-year receiver who is “night and day” from last summer, the backup elevated by a teammate's hamstring. Some of them are Sam LaPorta. Statistically, most of them are Skyy Moore.
The 2023 data suggests a simple posture for August: sell into camp hype freely, buy talent signals only at pre-hype prices, and write down which of today's risers earned their move with something a depth chart can't take away. In three years, someone will pull the receipts.
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Hype report card FAQ
Who was the most hyped player on r/DynastyFF in August 2023?
By raw upvotes, the No. 1 post of the month was a meme: 'Rashid Shaheed has a Sleeper picture' at 356 upvotes. By thread volume, Jordan Addison, Trey Lance, and the Kansas City camp duo of Skyy Moore and Justyn Ross dominated the month. The most consequential hype belonged to Anthony Richardson, who was priced like a top-five superflex quarterback before his first regular-season snap.
Did the August 2023 training camp hype pan out?
Mostly no. Across the ten most-hyped players, the median value change over the next three years was -58%. Only four of ten gained value, and two players (De'Von Achane and Jaxon Smith-Njigba) supplied essentially all of the portfolio's gains. Several busts — Skyy Moore, Justyn Ross, Kendre Miller, Zach Charbonnet — hit their all-time value peak during or within days of the hype window itself.
What is the camp-hype peak signal?
When a player's long-term value peak coincides with a training camp report rather than with regular-season production, the camp report itself was the top of the market. In this study, five of the hyped players never had a higher value than they did in late August 2023. If you are buying during a hype week, history says a cheaper entry almost always arrives after the hype cools — that was true for 9 of the 10 players here, including all of the hits.
Which players rose on KTC during August 2023 without Reddit hype?
Puka Nacua is the defining example: his KTC superflex value rose 7% in the first two weeks of August 2023 on quiet camp reports, he appeared in zero of the month's 303 most-upvoted r/DynastyFF posts, and he went on to finish WR4 as a rookie and WR1 in 2025 — a 423% value gain. Joshua Palmer and Cedric Tillman also rose double digits with no front-page presence, and Michael Wilson's only appearance was as the comparison foil in a Rashid Shaheed thread before returning 102%.
How was this study measured?
We collected the top 303 posts submitted to r/DynastyFF between August 1 and August 31, 2023 from an archive of the Reddit API, using archived upvote and comment scores. Each featured player's dynasty price is his KeepTradeCut superflex value from our historical database, sampled weekly from July 2023 through August 2026, and market risers compare August 1 to August 14, 2023 values. On-field production uses nflverse weekly data: PPR points and positional finishes for the 2023 through 2025 regular seasons. Returns compare the value on August 14, 2023 (mid hype window) to August 10, 2026.
Reddit data: the top 303 unique submissions to r/DynastyFF between August 1 and August 31, 2023, collected from the PullPush archive of the Reddit API as the top ~100 posts per week ranked by score, plus the archived comments of the ten cited threads. Upvote counts are archived values and can differ slightly from what Reddit displays today. Player selection was driven by mention frequency and combined post score within that sample. Value data: KeepTradeCut superflex values from Dynasty Dealmaker's historical database, sampled weekly (Mondays) from July 3, 2023 through August 10, 2026; the market-riser table compares daily values on August 1 and August 14, 2023 for players valued 1,200+. Production data: nflverse weekly player stats, 2023-2025 regular seasons; PPR totals and positional finishes are computed within that pool of roughly 570 fantasy-relevant players per season. Returns compare August 14, 2023 to August 10, 2026; “peak” is the highest weekly value in that span. Every cited post and comment links to the original thread. Data current through August 14, 2026.